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Think house prices are unaffordable now? It gets worse
The Globe and Mail
Published Wednesday, Jan. 08 2014, 7:29 PM EST
Last updated Thursday, Jan. 09 2014, 1:06 PM EST
A comment on the Globe article’s comment page and sent to the author
Dear Mr Carrick,
The fallacy/ foolishness of Median (or Average) Income vis a vis AVERAGE Real Estate prices
Statscan divides populations into chunks of 20%, equal one-fifths – Highest, Fourth, Third, Second and Lowest Quintiles is their terminology
I call them “Silk Collar, White Collar, Blue Collar, Company-supplied Collar, and No Collar”
2011 Statscan info By Quintiles
-Government Transfers 2011
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/famil88a-eng.htm
By Quintiles -Income Tax 2011
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/famil88b-eng.htm
From these two, using the Transfers Received, the Imputed % of Total Income that the Transfers represent
AND using the Income Taxes Paid (and the “imputed” % of Total Income)
I submit this me-calculated Table on Incomes by Quintile for:
1) “Economic Families of 2 or more”
and
2) “Unattached Individuals” — that’s how Statscan does it
(email me for the Spreadsheet – it didn’t paste too well)
Govt Transfers TO these two Groups, by Quintile | Income Tax FROM these two Groups, by Quintile | |||||||||||||
Economic Families |
Economic Families |
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of two or more |
“Implicit” |
“Implicit” |
of two or more |
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Gov’t |
Transfer Rate as |
Income |
Ave.#1  |
Income |
Transfer Rate as |
Inc Tax | ||||||||
Transfer $ |
% of TTL Income |
Calc’d #1 |
Calculations |
Calc’d #2 |
% of TTL Income |
Paid | ||||||||
Lowest |
$15,400 |
51.1 |
$30,137 |
$30,068 |
$30,000 |
3.0 |
$900 |
Lowest |
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Second |
$12,900 |
23.9 |
$53,975 |
$53,817 |
$53,659 |
8.2 |
$4,400 |
Second |
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Third |
$10,800 |
13.9 |
$77,698 |
$77,962 |
$78,226 |
12.4 |
$9,700 |
Third |
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Fourth |
$7,700 |
7.0 |
$110,000 |
$110,313 |
$110,625 |
16.0 |
$17,700 |
Fourth |
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Highest |
$6,000 |
3.0 |
$200,000 |
$200,913 |
$201,826 |
21.9 |
$44,200 |
Highest |
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Average |
$10,600 |
11.1 |
$95,495 |
$95,279 |
$95,062 |
16.2 |
$15,400 |
Average |
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Wholly Unscientific Median EXCLUDING bottom TWO QUINTILES =~ |
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$110,313 |
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Wholly Unscientific Wage Ranges |
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Min | Max |
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No Collar |
$0 |
$41,943 |
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Company Collar |
$41,943 |
$65,889 |
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Blue Collar |
$65,889 |
$94,137 |
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White Collar |
$94,137 |
$155,613 |
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Silk Collar |
$155,613 |
who knows |
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Unattached Individuals |
Unattached Individuals |
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|
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Lowest |
$5,400 |
64.6 |
$8,359 |
$8,867 |
$9,375 |
3.2 |
$300 |
Lowest |
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Second |
$10,600 |
57.6 |
$18,403 |
$19,618 |
$20,833 |
2.4 |
$500 |
Second |
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Third |
$8,600 |
30.3 |
$28,383 |
$28,309 |
$28,235 |
8.5 |
$2,400 |
Third |
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Fourth |
$5,700 |
13.1 |
$43,511 |
$43,541 |
$43,571 |
14.0 |
$6,100 |
Fourth |
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Highest |
$3,600 |
4.2 |
$85,714 |
$85,913 |
$86,111 |
21.6 |
$18,600 |
Highest |
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Average |
$6,800 |
18.3 |
$37,158 |
$37,246 |
$37,333 |
15.0 |
$5,600 |
Average |
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Wholly Unscientific Median EXCLUDING bottom TWO QUINTILES =~ | ||||||||||||||
$43,541 |
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Wholly Unscientific Wage Ranges | ||||||||||||||
Min | Max | |||||||||||||
No Collar |
$0 |
$14,243 |
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Company Collar |
$14,243 |
$23,964 |
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Blue Collar |
$23,964 |
$35,925 |
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White Collar |
$35,925 |
$64,727 |
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Silk Collar |
$64,727 |
who knows |
As (with hope) you can see, the Lowest/ No Collar Quintile (20% grouping) of the population are not buying homes of Any Price, because they are single-earner families (that likely already have a paid-off home) or are non-earner families who are on welfare/Assistance/ gov’t pension/OAS/GAINS (Ont), since 51% of Total Income (of the whole Quintile) is from Gov’t Transfers.
NB – there is NO accounting for assets here …. this is about INCOME (the stuff that “do-gooding vote-buyers” want to redistribute and to “minimize the disparity between rich and poor” — may I say, as a compassionate-type myself, this type of “correcting” cannot be done (accurately, honourably and righteously) without factoring in assets. But it’s too volatile politically to do the necessary-in-that-case “means-testing” on Grandma/pa, so they just try to tax it back (and Grandma/pa’s accounting-helper tries to minimize it — call it Job Creation.
Kinda-similarly, the Second/ Company Collar Quintile can only buy a house in a big city with great $$ assistance from relatives etc (very possible depending on the family) OR, as above, these folks are single-earner families with a paid-off home
With these two non-buyer segments eliminated , the price/income ratios – today’s and tomorrow’s – fall in line with everyone’s rules-of-thumb on income to shelter-cost.
IMHO, the top-3 Quintile incomes will grow at 5.6% (the calculated requirement that astonied The Mop & Pail columnist) because the prices of the goods and services these folks deal in will increase with inflation (driving their pay up, nominally) PLUS these are the “hard-working” types who spend a percentage of what they earn and earn more if they need more. (NB watch for the return of C.O.L.A clauses in contracts & labour negotiations)
Yes, in the big metro centres the prices ARE higher …but the wages, income, compensation packages of the top 3 Quintiles are higher too – again averages and national median figures tell nothing.
Yes, the dollar values (ie selling prices) of “over-the-average price” homes/neighbourhoods will increase (sometimes proportionately to the overall, metro-area increase, sometimes above it or below it) – but, (an also-overlooked aspect of Mr C’s analysis) these buyers are not putting 5% down – they put 25-75% down (proceeds from the sale of their previous home)
As to Vancouver and its commuter-watershed – this is a special “Immigration-based” anomaly – the flood of money coming from across the Pacific is overly-concentrated here.
To these international buyers, 1) Vancouver prices are dirt cheap, 2) they pay all cash -sometime to hold and not even occupy, 3) this realty asset is a pathway/ safe-storage-place for money from their homeland, 4) a pathway to residency/citizenship, 5) a pathway to ‘free’ healthcare, 6) a pathway to relatively-cheap post-secondary education of the highest quality etc etc … all while maintaining their citizenship/ cultural/ business/ family attachments in their home country.
IMHO, as a non-resident observer, Vancouver is a special case, the Buyer pool is unique and therefore, I suggest, unless you live/ work in Vancouver (or plan to), simply ignore/ eliminate this market from comparative, pan-Canadian housing stat analysis.
As a matter of fact, in a 2% inflation world, with borrowing costs at 3% and a while considering a completely tax-free appreciating asset (that ALSO provides shelter/ prestige/ “community”/ security-of-tenure/ income to offset the monthly payments) …. you’d be a fool NOT to borrow to buy the biggest home, in the best area, with the largest mortgage (NB borrow long & fixed for next year or two) that you can qualify for – i.e. unless you have no credit, no money, or no income …… and the Top 3 Quintiles of Canada -the Buyers- don’t have to worry about those thing
So Mr Carrick, please stop trying to talk-down the realty market or bleat about affordability!
Note of Commiseration and Understanding: Sir, if your newspaper tells you to talk-down real estate because they think their bread is only buttered by advertisers from the “stocks, bonds, over-priced Dividends, fast-trading derivative-products (ETF’s are the mildest, but are still derivatives) and high-frequency trading” businesses, then, I understand you predicament – heck, you gotta pay the piper to earn your paycheque … but please, just not at our industry’s expense so often — my word, Torstar seems to have a whole department on that “beat” already.
To me, today’s Real Estate market (prices relative to incomes) is most comparable to the 1950’s. What did the young families in the then-Top 3 Quintiles do?
They bought a rundown cheapie & fixed it, or bought further away from downtown, or bought a home with a basement suite or upper flat in it, Sometimes the purchased homes with family-a$$istance, sometimes just with NHA-assistance or a with second/ third mortgage … and that’s what young families are doing now.
Nothing’s changed. Nothing ever changes (after you give time for lagging sectors/ segments to catch up to leading sectors/segments) …..it’s just that everything (like a loaf of bread) is at a higher Nominal Price, because of inflation’s unspoken little brother – Currency Devaluation.
NEXT ISSUE — The past and future (makes a good title anyway) of INFLATION in Toronto real estate. NB this post will be the same advice we gave to Buyers in the 1970’s … except today Central-Banks cannot raise rates to moderate big-ticket purchases (it would break all the Muni/ Prov/ Fed budgets) AND the Bank of Canada DOESN’T WANT to curtail spending AND doesn’t want to push up the C$ by raising rates faster than the USA (who have now almost-promised no hikes til 2016)
Robert Ede,
Sales Representative,
RE/MAX Hallmark Realty Ltd
Toronto
416-494-7653
robetede@gmail.com
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